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Wednesday, October 26, 2005

Roll Call #22

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:35 PM

Planning to leave Saturday and head for "what hath G_d wraught" Florida.
 
We plan to stay with my Sister in West Palm Beach area.
 
I have just got to get away. Will leave everything in son's hands.
For how long... who knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Have a new lap-top and if I can figure out how to hook up to my sister's puter
I will still be on-line at the same address.
 
Can also be reached at  stanw104(at)gmail.com  with the same proviso.
 
Have a deposit on a house very near where I lived, but it will be a over 55 development, (:>(
duplexs, but that is at least 6 months away. M y 1 1/2 acres and 4 br house has just become too much.
Hopefully I will sell before I buy, I have to!!!!!
 
Love to you all,
 
Stan & Esther
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Good to hear from you.....just saw Chuck Robinson in the Pic. post office and we were speaking about you and the status of all the retirees.  Please keep me on the list......will you send out a new list when it's completed?  There are so many, I believe, that are in a bad way house-wise.  I see Spurgeon Crosby in our church every Sunday now.  He and wife are staying with daughter up here.  Dick Tuck is OK too, and I'm sure he wants to stay on the list.  I'll tell him....he only reads his email once a month....actually don't think he ever does!(:  Hope you're recovering........ADRON HALL
Ran into Chuck and his wife at the Doctors office yesterday (Tuesday)
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Stan. the last list you sent, I made a copy of it and have it somewhere in my stack of messages.  I don't know if I can find it, or how long it will take me.  I'm amazed at all the information you’ve been able to send.  That storm really messed up a LOT OF PEOPLE!!!  SO SORRY FOR ALL OF YOU.    If I can find the list I made, I don't know if I know how to sent it to you.  If my son, Howard were here, he'd know how to do it.  He's in Colo. and is the person who got me started with computers.  My prayers for all of you are the only thing I can offer.  My crippled 90 3/4 year old body isn't much good. Pauline (Barnes)
Pauline, I am a little younger (not much (:>( ) but mentally deteriorating, can only dream of being as sharp as you if I reach your age.
 
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Hi Stan:  My heart and my sympathies go out to all my friends on the gulf coast.  I realize your experience was much more tragic than mine.  In Cancun we went through cat. 4 Emily in June but it was nothing like the three days of hurricane force winds of Wilma.
 

 

Thurs. 20 Oct.: Winds from the northeast building all day.  Water is blowing through spaces between windows and window sills on north side of house.  We have 2 upstairs and 2 downstairs windows on the north side.  Winds steadily increase all night.  Fri. morning 21 Oct. we loose electricity.  I pray the windows hold up to the pounding they are getting.  We are busy mopping up the water that blows through  the window spaces.  Judging from the wind direction I calculate the eye to be to our south and a little east still out to sea.  By nightfall the wind has shifted to the east but is really pounding that side.  Thank goodness we have no windows on that side.  Fri. night we experience the worst winds.  I look out the front door and see water has risen to the top of the front steps. We go to bed hoping water does not enter from the street through the front door.  The only water coming in is from around the skylights, one over the stairs and one in each of 2 bathrooms upstairs.  Sat. 22 Oct. the first thing I do is check the front door.  I am relieved to see the water has resided.  The wind shifts to the south of east and begins slackening off.  I know the worst has past.  But water begins coming in the windows on the south side which is the front of the house.  Only one window upstairs and one downstairs are exposed to the direct wind and rain.  The others are protected by porches.  We manage to keep up with the mopping now.  I thank God that the windows and skylights have held up.  By evening the wind has moved to the south indicating the eye has past us.  Sun. morning I wade outside through knee deep water to clear trash from the grate over the drainage pipes so the water can drain off the streets.  Only light gusts of wind and rain from the southwest.  People begin to come out to clean up.  Then the looting starts.  We live a few blocks from some warehouses and about 8 blocks from a Wallmart.  We see lots of strangers pass the house and return with loads of meat, refrigerators, and all kinds of things.  About 10 AM shots ring out.  The storeowners are fighting back.  About 11 AM the police show up.  All they can do is stop a few people and scare others off by their presence.  I saw no arrests.  All the police could do was to protect what was left.  It is a shame people react this way in an emergency.  I can understand desperately poor people taking advantage of a situation.  But many of the people we saw were not poor at all.  We saw late model vans and pickups loaded with loot. 

 

Most houses in Mexico are built with reinforced concrete pilings and concrete blocks.  That is why there was not as much damage here as in the U. S.  This construction is labor intensive, especially when you consider all concrete is hand mixed on site.  That is why this type of construction is cheaper here than in the U.S.  Our house stood up very well.  All we had was some water damage and of course the satellite disk was blown off the roof.  And our nerves were frazzled after three full days of hurricane force winds.    

Ron (Davidson)

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Thanks (along with many others with NAVOCEANO
backgrounds) for your time and efforts with the "Roll
Call".  How you can manage it, with all the other
pressures and constant "downers" is beyond me.

The words "true grit" come to mind while reading the
accounts of those effected by Katrina.

Even though 30 years have passed since we all moved to
SSC, I feel somewhat guilty now for supporting the
move from the NCR area.  As it turned out, I was the
first Navy civilian employee PCS'd to SSC.  Who could
have known what lay ahead?

Sorry to hear that you may be moving on to another
area.  I suppose many will do likewise - especially
retirees.

You are welcome to use any of the above along with my
sincere regrets and wishes for a successful recovery.

Winky (Harned)
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Tuesday, October 25, 2005

email for retiree grouping

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:59 AM

 
 

Well I think I have my lists straightened out..... I hope!
 
There may be a few extra names and some may get more then they want, but this will be
corrected with time as I hear from you all.
 
Since my sister's home in West Palm Beach was unscathed by Wilma, I will probably be
heading there by the end of this week.... if things work out.
 
Have one more bit of good news to pass on:
 
Stan,
Good to hear from you.....just saw Chuck Robinson in the Pic. post office and we were speaking about you and the status of all the retirees.  Please keep me on the list......will you send out a new list when it's completed?  There are so many, I believe, that are in a bad way house-wise.  I see Spurgeon Crosby in our church every Sunday now.  He and wife are staying with daughter up here.  Dick Tuck is OK too, and I'm sure he wants to stay on the list.  I'll tell him....he only reads his email once a month....actually don't think he ever does!(:  Hope you're recovering........ADRON HALL
 
Just remember no one is removed from either list unless they request it (and then it doesn't always happen???).
Further more, now that I have thoroughly confused everybody.... I have a text list of all (not updated since August) and an email list brokendown into segments so I can meet the ISP restrictions for sending.
 
Stan

Thursday, October 20, 2005

Roll call #21

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:50 PM

Hi All,
Just got back on-line. The puter I am networked too had a HD failure.
My son tried to use Norton Ghost to save his data. After all I read about
putting the HD in the freezer, it really worked after about 5 tries.
He modified the procedure by putting a fan on HD after freezing it.
 
As to my status, I received a downer, when my application for an NFCU "Equity Loan"  (Line of Credit Loan) was turned down after a 12 day delay because their "Inspector" said the house was "un-inhabitable". According to my son, she drove up, took a picture from about 90 feet away and told him she was heading to Eden Isles to work on her home.
 
The next day I received several letters (each was duplicated) from our "good friends" at FEMA telling me I was ineligible for assistance because I had insurance and ineligible for something else because my house did not receive enough damage.
Their inspector had told me I would be getting a trailer because my house was unlivable.
Esther received 2 automated response calls about 2 weeks ago, saying I would be getting a couple of forms to be filled out and returned to them for further assistance. Their response time has already run out and I have received nothing.
 
My Flood Insurance people told me that the prelim report was received and it was sent back for a Final Report. The adjustor told me that the Company had lost it and it had to start over. The only good news was that instead of covering only 4 feet they would cover the full 8 ft of wall (sheetrock). So if and when I get the check it should really help.
 
Well, everyone tells me to hang on, things will get better.
 
Stan
 
Not much to pass on, except for the fact that the Roll Call Blog is up and running.
 
 
Hi Stan:
 
Woke up about 2AM local, and couldn't sleep, so I went to work, and now all of your roll calls have been posted.   Please feel free to post directly to the Blog by sending your Roll Calls to:
 
 
The only thing to remember is that the Subject field becomes the Title of the posting.
 
You might wish to keep sending them to me for me to post.  That way, I can remove the email addresses, addresses and telephone numbers before posting them.  Your decision.  Also, your friends my post directly by using the email address.  Also, your decision.  If you want them to do so, caution them not to post email addresses, addresses (city & state are OK) and telephone numbers.  I think that the way that you are doing it now is just fine.
 
At any rate, I have caught up now, so you can use it, and the postings will remain in reverse (most recent first) chronological order.
 
If you do use the above email address to automatically post, please send me a copy as usual.  I have it set so that I have to release them for posting - even my own emails. I will check once a day for new postings, and release all that have been received after screening.  That is just in case some loose cannon gets the email address, and sends something that shouldn't be posted anywhere. I had a forum that is now closed, and it does happen.

Regards,
 
 
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Hey Stan,  Hope you are progressing, I know it was rough with your son going home.  There are plenty of people down here still helping and if you need help just ask.  We have people coming today from Washington State that are with the Forestry Dept.  They are cutting trees that are too large for our chainsaw.    It is so good to hear about everyone.  We went to  Sams funeral and it was probably one of the saddest funerals I have ever attended. The rest of this email is one that I sent to Pat Salts, he was nice enough to forward me your roll calls.  Randy and I retired as of Oct 1. We took early outs.  Had we known this was going to happen I don't know if I would still have retired but we work all day around here, sleep and start all over again the next day.  We had damage to our house, gutted 4+ rooms due to roof loss.  A tornado hit the house across from us and took to entire roof down to the bricks and then came across and hit the corner of our house and then swung around and hit the backside of the other part of our house.  Our house is L shaped.  There were 15 people at the house across the street and thank goodness noone was hurt.  we had 30 trees down.  Downtown Long Beach south of the tracks is gone.  Pass is total devastation.  If you had a dollar to spend,  you couldn't.  It is very depressing.  I have not been to the East and haven't been to the Bay or Waveland but they are gone also.  Went to Pearlington with Marie Reynolds  a week after the storm and everything there is destroyed or gutted.  Joe Matt and Lois Nutwell were down for the week of Oct 7-13 and stayed with us.  They still own a house here and the roof was pretty much gone from it. For those of you that live in the DC area Lois took video of Long Beach and the Pass.   I attended the first of town meetings yesterday on rebuilding the coast and it is very encouraging. there were 400+ people there.  I encourage everyone to attend one of these meetings and get involved.  They have a website you can go to and it is www.governorscommission.com  We still don't have  land line phone, noone in our neighborhood does.  We got cable and Internet use back last week.  With the amount of devastation in the area I think that is pretty fast. I have to say that for the most part the people that lost everything are coping quite well and have a good attitude.  The people on the MS Gulf Coast are pretty resilient.   Keep in touch.   Carol (Herr)
 
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Hi Stan:
 
As of this writing here are the visitor stats for Mr. Worchel's Ravaged Neighborhood:
    From the Ad at the top of webpages: 28 (Starting about 11AM on the 18th)
   Total - all sources                 42 (Starting about  7AM on the 20th)
 
That isn't very many, but, you can expect the Total visitors to increase fairly fast, as the search engines (Google, MSN, Yahoo, AOL, etc) have found the blog, and have started crawling it every time we make a posting.  Also, I have about 20 blog syndicators that I am notifying everytime that you post, and they are crawling it to add the new entries in their syndication databases.. 

Regards,
 
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Melissa,
I had to do something here so I tryed to find some EPA contact. Here is what seemed right so I sent them and email. We all need to be calling Trent Lotts office about what was done to protect our environment and why this is being done. I head that other dumps are now not getting debris because this has opened. There are lots of industrial areas and already approved solid disposal areas in Hancock that do not pose such a hazard. I will let you know what I hear back. Others may want to write similar letters or make calls. 
 
I have a good photo of the farm flooded in July when the little storm went way over to Alabama.
TS Cindy  - July 6 - I think it was. I will find it and send it out. Should help make the case that this is wrong.
 
Terry Towles
 
 
TO:Office of Water Resource Center (OWRC)
202-566-1729, 202-566-1736 (fax), 1-800-832-7828 (Wetlands Helpline)
email: center.water-resource@epa.gov
 
From: Terry Towles
Bay Saint Louis, MS
 
It is sure hard to find contract information for the EPA in the phone book and government listing.
I hope this is the right place to start and if not you can send me to the right placed.
 
On top of the Hurricane damage we suffered from Katrina we are about to see another in the middle of our residential community.  A dump is being started in a wetland/farm in the middle of a community of homes and waterfront (non-industrial) where I just lost my house. This area is subject to winter and storm flood and debris is now being brought in containing who knows what.
 
The area is at the end of Washington Street or on Jordan River Road in Hancock county, Mississippi near Bay Saint Louis,MS 39520.
 
From you web page. "EPA serves as the lead Agency for the cleanup of hazardous materials"
What information do you have on any approvals for this mis-use of this area and what is being done to protect the surrounding wetlands and communities.
 
Help us to prevent another disaster on top of the one we just had.
Use of this area is not needed for the clean-up and is a very unwise environmental move.
 
Terry Towles
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Wednesday, October 19, 2005

Roll call #20

Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:43 PM

Wasn't going to send a Roll Call tonight.
I was pretty down, as my son, Paul, was heading home to Maryland, in
the morning, after being here as my right arm since "Sept 16th".
I am greatful to him and to his wife Pam.
 
Richard Young sent the attached story, showing another side of the Katrina story and
I thought it worthy  to pass to all and it also helped to pull me out of my duldrums.
 
Stan
 
Also, friend Charlie has added a Blog on his website,  just click on www.usafns.com :
 
Hi Stan:
 
Sometime ago, I created, but never used a blog, so I have changed it to the blog below:
 
 
I thought that you might wish to use it for future Roll Calls.  I have posted the first two, but, I deleted all tele numbers and email addresses.  Check it out, and if you wish, I will post all of the others that you have sent. 
 
Also, here is an email address that you can use to automatically post in the future, but, please wait until after I finish posting the rest of the ones that you have already sent:
 
    XXXXXXXXXXXX

Regards,
 
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Hi Stan:
 
I have added the first six roll calls, and set up an ad that will appear on all of my website pages.  About half of them already have the ad, and the other half will get it at 6AM tomorrow morning when a new batch of releases go into production.
 
I will add the remaining dozen or so roll calls as time permits.  Right not, I have two appointments - one at 4 & one at 5, and I am not ready for either.
 
Also, I added a counter, so that I will be able to tell you how many people clicked on the ad.   You can never know what to expect.  There is an average of 2500 to 5000 visitors daily to www.usafns.com, so you never know whether they will want to see it or not.  I imagine that people are tired of the Katrina/Rita sound bites that are shown on TV at every opportunity.  I will revise the ad to indicate that it contains first person accounts.

Regards,
 
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Dear Stan
Lou and I certainly wish you good luck during your rebuilding phase.  We go home in about 2 weeks and must begin to see about getting our own lives back in order.  I have written a little story re: KATRINA.  It took a while because I like so many others can hardly ever think about all this without weeping. You can include it with "roll call" if you like.  Thanks again.
Richard Young 
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Stan, please pass this on to the Marchants.
Luetta's letter just made me cry. Her observations repeated many I have heard (and said), particularly from my son Grant. Grant lived in mid-city and has been filming and photographing much of what he has seen since returning for what belongings he could rescue. I would like to get the Marchants' email address. Thanks.
Cecile Ingram
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WHEN THE STORM CAME.doc (41.5KB) pasted below. ~G
 

WHEN THE STORM CAME

 

            Along the Gulf Coast, my part of the country, nobody will ever think of KATRINA as a “lady”.  When that ill-begotten spawn of nature gone mad came screaming and ripping and killing past our homes and churches and schools and businesses and all the other places and things that make up our lives and families and dreams, we were afraid and we hated her.  Now she is gone and no longer exists but we have found that she has stolen or destroyed much of the beauty and comfort and perhaps even lives from us and all our neighbors and friends.  It is easy to hate her for all that. 

            We knew she was coming and when she would arrive and we never felt real danger, but our daughter and her family decided to leave and that concerned me greatly as fleeing has its own dangers.  They reserved any room they could find and that was finally way over in eastern Alabama and, as they drove away that day before the storm, I began to feel very lonely.  Lou and I had prepared well, laying in extra canned food, stocking plenty of water, filling extra gasoline tanks and filling vehicle tanks, setting out flashlights with extra batteries, covering our windows with plywood shutters, and even purchasing a generator on the day before the storm arrived.  We prepared our centrally located strong room with blankets and pillows, flashlights, knives and an ax for escape, our battery radio, the cell phone, and some water.  Our neighbors were also preparing and we cooperated and felt confident that together we would have no great problems.  We settled in for the night, which was Sunday, and watched TV until going to bed.  It was dark and quiet as a cave inside the house with all windows covered.  That night in the relative safety of our inland – Carriere, MS – home we found our last bit of normalcy for a long time.

            Monday morning we had our regular coffee and breakfast and prepared to watch the storm blow on by.  By then we knew that she would hit us dead on.  As the wind rose, trees began to fall across power lines and we lost power and phones at 8:00 AM.  By midday I suspect the wind may have gusted as high as 150 mph.  There was a great deal of noise as shingles ripped away and then flew away to hit the house some other place.  Water was forced through the panels and past the lights of our heavy wooden front door by the now screaming wind.  Lou and I rushed around to staunch leaks and place all available containers under drips from the ceiling as rain came through the trashed shingle roof above.  I went to the attic to check for damage one time and could actually see daylight through our roof where the ridge vent was torn away. Maybe that is when I began to have some doubts about our home surviving.   Looking out through an upper story window, I saw that most of our trees in back were down and all those magnificent pines in the Hideaway Lake subdivision adjoining ours were down and in falling had wreaked terrible havoc on their homes and power lines.  Lou and I were in our own personal survival mode and had to go it alone for more hours.  All of us were there locked into our own personal arks and had to take care of business as well as possible.  I, in relative safety, was not conscious at that time of so many who were praying and dying in their own fragile arks not far to our south in Gulfport and Long Beach and Pass Christian and all the other ruined communities that until the day before had been beautiful places to live and vacation and visit for a day or week.  None of us were really conscious nor ready for the tragedy looming over nearby New Orleans.  We would not really know all this for days because we had no phones and no TV and no cell phones.  Our system was shattered and all we could do was wait and continue our survival mode. 

            When darkness fell on Monday the world was very different and the full impact of all that was manifest beginning the next morning.  We spent that next day assaying our damage and cleaning and removing some plywood window covers.  After that first exhausting day I sat on my back porch and lit up a very expensive cigar, a gift from our cousin Lynn Lambert, saved for a special occasion, and enjoyed a wonderful Maryland beer.   We also spent much time talking to neighbors and organizing a little for the hard time we knew was upon us.  We did what was necessary for ourselves and what was needed to help others by pooling resources such as gasoline which was now completely unavailable.  Rumors of looting and violence were already beginning and we posted night watches to deal with that if true.  One person had heard that gangs were waking across the bridges from New Orleans to plunder Picayune and Slidell.  There were no phones to call our police if problems arose so all of us slept with loaded guns nearby.  I do not believe any of these problems came to pass but was not willing to take a chance.  The police chief lives nearby and he had deputies make several passes per day into that area and also alerted the county authorities.

            The weather during that time was just miserable.  It was usually 95 degrees plus in the day with 95 % plus humidity.  My biggest job was removing our storm shutters and picking up shingles.  I could only work early morning and spent much of the remainder of a day just sitting back inside cooled a little by the fans that we rigged to run along with our tiny TV and refrigerators and freezers.  Lou and I had some secret survival weapons for this time and absent those things the outcome may have been in doubt.  First, we used water dipped from our hot tub to have great hot baths in the evening.  During the day I had unlimited water from the neighbor’s swimming pool to cool my overheated body.  Few had such luxuries even after the water came on days later because the electric water heaters did not work.  Many had no such conveniences for long after that.  Some neighbors were spending much time attempting to locate gasoline but it was not available anywhere.  There were vehicles parked along most roads – abandoned after running out of fuel.

                        We were due to visit friends in Idaho soon but Lou wanted to leave almost immediately and I did not.  I just could not leave with the roof left open to the sky and certain rain.  Finally, I found a roofing crew at a neighbor’s home and hired them on the spot.  They spent most of a day in the heat getting roofing felt over the bare spots and throwing loose shingles to the ground.  About midday they stopped and had a lunch on our front porch.  They had all lost most or major pieces of their homes.  Still, we had a laugh at the labels on the government MREs they were eating.  One featured something called restructured beef steak.  Another was some pink froth called ice cream and it was completely unpalatable. 

            With the roof covered somewhat we began the process of leaving.  I had to throw away all that we could not give away.  I hopefully placed the reeking trash cans on the street for collection sometime.  I gave away about 50# of headed shrimp and a dozen good strip steaks and all my frozen grape juice - there went my entire 2005 Muscadine grape crop which was my first harvest.  We telephoned friends on our now operational land-line phones even though we could not receive calls, left our phone numbers for the next two months, arranged for a homeless friend to live in our home during that time, and photographed our surrounding area to show friends in Idaho.  I did not want to leave but with no real promise of power and phones and potable water and all those things so necessary to our well being, there was no real choice.  We just drove away.

            We made a last visit to our daughter Kate in Hattiesburg and went on to Jackson to leave our car at the home of a friend who delivered us to the airport and so began our own retreat to Idaho for almost two months.  Arriving in Boise was welcome beyond words and then our friends, Paul and Linda Bucca, whisked us away to their mountain-top home. 

            Most of this story has been about Lou and I and our own problems with all this destruction while knowing our good luck when so many are suffering so horribly.  The following short recollections describe some of the many impressions of all that has passed since that day when the world changed for so many of us on the Gulf Coast. 

  • A friend, Stan Worchell, whose home suffered great damage, got his “roll call” communications going and did us NAVOCEANO employees or retirees  such an immense favor by providing much needed personal communication.  So, thanks again Stan for thinking about all of us who desperately needed the “roll call”.
  • There was so little noise afterward.  The noise pollution of civilization was mute.  Soon the sound of generators and chain saws and helicopters filled that void.
  • Huge tall pines lay like pickup sticks across roads and homes and power lines.
  • Sarah’s home badly damaged from rain.  The mattresses were soaked.
  • We ate well from stocks of thawing steaks and shrimp.  The Red Cross passed out whole pineapples and water and ice so we had cold beer and sodas.  A hospital employee passed by giving away expensive crab meat.
  • I had plenty of gas from my boats fuel tank.  It is almost impossible to siphon gas from a modern vehicle.
  • Nights seemed endless and we always carried flashlights.  Lou was just exhausted from lack of sleep.  There was no real hope of relief in the foreseeable future.
  • Dogs were loose and searching for food.  A rabbit ran past during the storm and I saw him blown away across my yard as he sought any kind of shelter.
  • My next door neighbor had about a dozen people at his home.  The children were so bored and down so he put them to work cleaning the yards.  They had to work hard and were rewarded well afterward.  I believe Ned’s child therapy there may have an important lesson for everyday life.
  • We had no way to communicate.  I did not know where my children were.  Finally, we were able to call our daughter in Sacramento, CA and each of us got our family messages through her.  Imagine that.  She was our family com center.
  • Blurred TV images of water pouring over the collapsed levees surrounding New Orleans was numbing. 
  • So many of my friends from work described their homes as having only a slab left.  One person said the remains of his home were sitting on the neighbor’s slab.  Almost half of all the 1000 families were left at least temporarily homeless.
  • Sam Tart, a co-worker from NAVOCEANO, drowned with his 2-year old son.
  • A friend, Betsy Ransdale, was taken away from her home by boat and then she and her dog stayed with us for a while.  She had no idea if her children were OK but they showed up to help two days later.  She was real happy.
  • Picayune doubled in size from 10,000 to about 20,000.  Traffic is impossible and food is difficult to find as it is sold out quickly.
  • Eddie Compass, the New Orleans police chief broke down when someone told him babies were being raped in the evacuation center.  He resigned soon after.
  • Ray Nagin, the mayor of New Orleans, lashing out at the slow and disorganized relief efforts and saying they would need 10,000 body bags.
  • The people of Texas and Houston just got on with job of helping the evacuees and did not wait for all the red tape to be untangled.  A good model for the rest of us I think.
  • The bridges to New Orleans and those connecting Mississippi coastal towns were badly damaged and impassable.  Access by vehicle was almost impossible.
  • I was happy when my neighbor showed up with his girl friend.  She is an anchor woman at a local TV station and was evacuated to Mobile.  We had boiled shrimp together.

            There was so much devastation due to the storm that relief efforts were inevitably messed up badly.  Louisiana blamed the Feds for all their problems and the head of FEMA said that Louisiana was dysfunctional.  Much of the flattened Mississippi coast seemed to be ignored in all the finger pointing.  Some of the nationally known political religious leaders accused everybody of race bias and even swore that helicopters were bombing the levees.  Such foolishness.   I was most impressed by those who got on with the business of surviving and helping their neighbors without need for recognition or reward.  I saw a white nurse in the Super Dome save the life of a black woman who was collapsing into a diabetic coma.  I saw two local rednecks deliver an old black man and woman to safety by wading and towing them to dry land in their small flat boat.  Then, without announcing their names, they waded back into the rising water to attempt more rescues.  I am wondering if those brave souls survived.  Recently, the north Mississippi Mennonites came to our community to help clear away trees and debris for any who requested it.  We should all be thankful for these neighbors and friends - quiet heroes all.

            Lou and I have been hosted for weeks by our friends and their friends.  All of these people have expressed their genuine concern and sympathy for all of us who were living in the path of Hurricane Katrina.  I am grateful and encouraged by this universal caring for all of us.  So, for my friends and family and fellow survivors, I am sharing that with you.  Good Luck.

 

 

By:       Richard A. Young

            18 October, 2005

            Wilderness Ranch, Idaho

 

 

~G: Phone numbers and email addresses replaced with x's to protect the innocent.

Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Roll call #19

Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:03 AM
 
Have a little time this morn (Esther has the car) so will attempt to get this out.
Having a little trauma as my son, who I been depending on, has to return to Maryland Thursday.
Has been here since October 16th. Long time to be away from family/home/job, but he has been a God-send!!!
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Stan,
 
We have been spending one night in Metairie (due to smell), then one in BR; save on driving back and forth.  They have finally picked up the mounds of debris from the gutted homes along Aris Ave.  We are thinking of returning sometime in NOV, pending what else we find.  Have met with house and FEMA inspectors; hoping to meet with flood within the next week.
 
Still slowly cleaning up; plan to remove kick boards at base of cabinets (kitchen & bathrooms), then selectively removing base boards to determine extent of mold growth.  Plan on also trying to save bedroom furniture and dining room breakfront, both made of solid wood (?).  May have a line on someone to remove wooden floors, which is prerequisite to moving back.  We are in outage area for cable, which means no internet, and will have to wait to be connected (another PR).  John (Iwachi
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Hey Stan, there are 3 houses for sale near me; # 4, # 6 and # 7 Ashley Court in Long Beach, MS are for sale.  I live in # 5.  All are 4 bedroom houses.  Ashley Court is a cul-de-sac and does not have a lot of traffic.  Would like to have some nice neighbors move in.  If you are not nice, please buy somewhere else.  ;-)
 
Theresa Anoskey   (would look into it, but I am so stretched out, planning to get repair going, concentrating on that, then heading for Florida, then looking in about 3-6-9 months when things calm down. but am planning to come back (at this time?)
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Lu's Update

(MOM: PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY EMAILED!  THANKS, LUV U, LU)
 
Dear Everyone:
 
I have talked to some of you who got the email update from my mom concerning my return to New Orleans.  Let me tell you in my own words how things are progressing.
 
I temporarily relocated to Indianapolis, IN during the month of Sept.  I was informed that my neighborhood was going to be the last area of the city to open up for people to go and to check out their homes.  Initially, the city was only going to open up Lakeview for 3 days.  That is not the case now, but at the time I needed to hurry up and get down here in order to try to salvage things.
 
First of all, I do have pics of my apt., but I left the cords to hook up the computer at the apt. before the storm.  I am going to get some new ones to pass along any pics if you're interested.  Let me try to describe in words what exactly I witnessed.
 
First of all, I did not recognize my street.  So much debris was everywhere and the landmarks were either missing or covered so I had to guess at which street was mine.  I had driven down that street every day for 6 months, but could not recognize it after the storm.
 
I couldn't get in initially.  A neighbor came over to see if I needed help, and I did.  My bookcase had fallen in front of the door, blocking the entrance.  Books were scattered everywhere and were waterlogged.  The nice neighbor (whom I never met before this incident) took a piece of wood that was once a fence and tried to life up the bookcase out of the way.  After about 20 minutes of this, I was finally able to get inside.
 
Let's just say that nothing, I mean NOTHING, was where I left it.  My couches had floated to the middle of the room and were covered in mold that could probably cure any disease known to man.  All of my furniture had fallen on its face, with the contents all over the apartment.  I had to climb over a armoire that was rotting in order to get into my kitchen.  My refridgerator acted as a flotataion device and floated on its back to the middle of the kitchen.  All of the pics on the fridge were still there, like nothing had ever happened. 
 
My bedroom was destroyed.  Clothes were everywhere and my bed was covered in a nice molded rust that looked terrible.  All of the floors were black and the smell could just about knock you out.  It was incredible.
 
What I salvaged:
My framed Mary Lou Retton poster (vintage) that was hanging in the kitchen; a vase painted by my mother that she gave to me because she never really liked it; all of the Cambridge glass that I have begged my mother to store for me due to the fact that I move about once a year; a ring I got in Spain; my framed diploma; my painted pic of the farmhouse; a plaque that read "home" in Chinese that i purchased in China this summer; a wall hanging that a friend of mine gave me that simply said "Be Happy"; all of my long sleeved t-shirts that were on the top shelf of my closet; a anniversary present I forgot to give my parents this summer (it is "Happy Marriage" written in Chinese and is framed and in perfect condition); a North Face jacket that was on a shelf, wrapped in plastic to give to my mom for Christmas (now it will be my winter coat); and a statue that I bought in China the first time I went.
 
If I have not updated you personally, I am very sorry.  I cannot explain how hectic my dailiy life is here.  I have clocked a tremedous amount of hours at the restaurant I used to have as a second job.  I am trying to make as much as I can while I can.  There are not very many restaurants open and almost everyone had to throw out their refridgerators, so eating out is almost a necessity.  My good friend, Ann, described New Orleans and the surrounding suburbs perfectly when she compared it to a communist country.  You have to stand in line or wait for EVERYTHING.  Going to Target takes a lot of time.  All restaurants close at 8 and getting a table is extremely difficult.  I know my restaurant has been having 2 hour waits just to get a table.  And people are tired, and depressed, and uncertain, and sad. 
 
I have had a wide range of emotions since I have been back.  When I informed my mother that I was going to come back indefinitely, she was shocked.  I had previously stated that I didn't want any part of rebuilding a city in ruins, but honestly, I feel I have nowhere else to go.
 
And only New ORleans people can understand this craziness.  New Orleans is home; it is like no other place on the planet.  It is dysfunctional and backward and stressful, and that is why the people are so laid back.  Otherwise, we'd all be dead from stress.  After moving from city to city after the storm, I have decided that I can only live in New Orleans; I don't know how to live anywhere else.  After all, I am the same girl who told her mother when she was young that if she didn't live in New Orleans when she grew up, she would come back for Mardi Gras every year.
 
I do see signs of hope in NOLA.  Businesses are slowly reopening, and at every corner the same discussion is being had.  "How did you make out with the storm?"  and the conversation progresses from there.  I have told complete strangers my story and have had tremendous outpouring of hope and faith that I just don't think I would experience anywhere else.  I am not saying that other cities are not generous.  New ORleans people have all had to depend on others for support during this time.  But being a New Orleanian is like being a part of a secret society or a fraternity; we are all in this together.  And we will all make it together.  And what other city can say that it was able to preserve its history while making radical changes at the same time?
I know that some of you are down on our politicians, but they understand how New Orleans works and they are trying to bring together a city that looks like Baghdad.  Racism is a critical issue and it is hard to navigate around.  There are no simple solutions.  You must be here to see the devastation.  Driving into New Orleans is just plain scary.  Whole portions of the city are completely abandoned.  It is like a bad movie.
 
But I love it.  And I had to come back to have closure if I do decide to move on.  I don't know how long I will stay.  The daily stress gets to me sometimes so badly that I feel like I can barely breathe.  And don't even get me started on how wrong a hand I was dealt by New Orleans Public Schools.  I will just leave my feelings about all that with, "I will NEVER teach in Orleans Parish Public Schools again," and it breaks my heart.
 
I am going through so much right now that I don't know how to express myself.  If my dad were able to use the internet, he would be disappointed that his hard earned money went toward an English degree and his daughter is speechless.  But my life used to change by months before the storm; now it changes by the hour.  I am not used to so much instability.  I am a planner, and this beast is unplanable.
 
So to all of you who have prayed for me, listened to me, donated items to me, given your money to me or who have done this for any other person affected by Hurricane Katrina...Thank you.  We don't know how to express our gratitude because some of the generosity cannot ever be returned, but please know that you keep us going.  And we must keep going in order to survive.
 
I love NOLA and always will.  I am just not ready to let go yet.  I might be able to some day, but I can't promise anything.
 
Of course, you can try to reach me by phone @ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
 
I love you all.
 
Luetta Marchant  (She really puts in words how I have been going on this daily up and down feeling/stress)
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Stan:    
    Good work with the rollcalls keep them coming.  So far have not seen anything about Evie Gregory or Paul Hammes.  Pass along anything you hear.    
Jim Findlay   (I think there was something on Evie, but nothing on Paul)
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hey stan,  carol herr here.  could you add me to your list.  randy never tells me to well after the fact about your emails.  my address is xxxxxxxxxxxxx margie lamb is at navo working.  she lost everything, she lived in pearlington.  carol (Herr)
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Stan.  Just heard on the radio that some insurance cos. will not pay the home owner money so he can arrange for repair, rather they are giving the money to mortgage lenders and banks.  When the owner presents the banks etc. a receipt for repair or for material, the bank pays the bill.  So, if you get ,say, $20,000 for repairs, the money is sent to the bank .  You present a bill for $5,000 the bank pays it and keeps the remainder in escrow and invests it in short term CD's.  This is illegal in LA as it should be the homeowner that can invest the money as he chooses as long as it is used for repairs.  I don't know if this is legal in MS or not.
If this is true, some companies are protecting their sit down spot and the public gets screwed again.
Larry (Sower)
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Dear Stan:
 
     About two weeks before the Katrina, I switched to BellSouth dsl and thus got a new address. I sent out notices to everyone in my address book giving the new address but evidently you didn't get it. I didn't particularly notice before the storm that I wasn't getting anything from you but I was having problems with the service and didn't notice a lot of things. After the storm I figured that you were probably off the air due to damage or no internet service. Don Tayman finally made me aware , so I am sending you our new address as follows  " xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "
     Sorry to hear about your damage; we got hit pretty hard ourselves. Four of those big 70foot pine trees hit the house and did quite a bit of damage. Quite a bit of structural damage to the roof and two rooms got pretty well wiped out bu the rain pouring in until the ceilings came down. We were without power for 16 days and without phone service for 25 days and it was a mess. Fortunately our two boys came home to help; one from Birmingham, ala. and the other from Sacramento Calif. The two of them with the help of Don Tayman and myself managed to do the structural repairs to the roof and the resheath with plywood and then cover with tarps until I was able to get a roofer to reshingle. At least we are now secure on the outside but still a lot of repairs neede inside. The material we were able to get for the repairs was terrible but still top price. It did make the work a lot more difficult and time consuming. However we consider ourselves lucky when we hear about so many others. We did get a hell of a scare riding this one out. I don't think we'll try riding out another catagory 5. Attached is a phot giving you an idea of what it looked like when we came out.
Regards
Nelson   (due size picture not included)
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~G: Phone numbers and email addresses replaced with x's to protect the innocent.

Sunday, October 16, 2005

Roll call #18

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:47 AM

 
Received from friend Charlie... He keeps trying to improve communications between us all.
I know we all appreciate his efforts.
 
Trying to fix one house, looking for other NON-existent  accomodations has been extremely
stressful... so have stopped looking and have put my house on market with price as is and
keyed to my fix-up costs at the time of purchase.
The lack of insurance response has really made things difficult. Everything out of a shrinking
pocket.
 
Wish you all better luck!!!
Stan
 
Hello Stan:
 
I follow your roll calls, and I am beginning to perceive that you friends are beginning to be a little more hopeful that they were earlier.  I think that this is a good sign.  Also,  people are visiting, and hopefully, the capability is an asset for them, and helps all feel connected again.
 
I added "Meetings at 8PM Central - 7 days" to the title.  I placed it there, because it will remain there, and won't be moved down, and ultimate out of view.  I wrote the following message into the log:
I  have  been  watching,  and  you  appear  to  be  missing  each  other.   So,  I  added  "Meetings  at  8PM  Central  -  7  Days".   There  are  enough  of  you  so  that   if  you  should  try  on  anyday  at  8PM,  there  should  be  a  few  of  you  there  to  meet.
Obviously, I will change the hour/day(s) as you might wish.
 
Regards,
 
Charlie Mitchell
 
 
OR
 
 
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Correction on my e address.  I did a typo.  It is:  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Yvonne Silvestri
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Stan,
 
We too appreciate your efforts to keep the Navoceano people informed.  Have heard about and from some people from long ago.  Our daughter, Luetta, is back in New Orleans and trying to start over since she lost everything.  As you can imagine, one of the biggest challenges is finding a place to live in New Orleans.  She has a job but went from couch to couch in different people's homes and apartments for awhile.  Her living arrangements are still far from perfect but all she requires right now is a place to sleep and shower while she tries to rebuild.
 
Our son, Keith had minimal damage in Picayune.  Lots of debris, of course, and clean up but little permanent damage.
 
Our son, Bill, evacuated Houston with Rita and came home to some roof damage and a defective air conditioner.
 
Have two free bedrooms in the rolling hills of Ohio on a beautiful farm if anyone needs refuge.
 
Our best to all of Navoceano!!
 
Kay and Frank Marchant
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Go to the following address and you can see an impressive video of Katrina's storm surge in Gulfport.
 
 
Rich Lehmann
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This is worth sending again. I applied and received a $500 grant.
If you need help applying, get in touch with Mary Pierson
Stan,

I read the attached in the our Chapter NARFE Newsletter today and
thought it would be of help to current NARFE members in the Hurricane
Katrina disaster areas.  I had not heard of this grant for emergency
assistance for victims of a declared natural disaster until today.

Thanks for initiating and continuing the Roll Calls, they have been
helpful in learning about the status of old friends.  Our prayers and
thoughts have been with you all during this horrendous disaster.  Hang
in there and thank you for your service to the rest of us.

John Hanna
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Just a note to let you know that we are back on line as we got our
telephone today...We had very little damage at our house..lots of downed
trees and etc.but the house and shed came through in good shape...and we
are alive and well...

Doc & Janice Hollensbe (
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I saw Murray Aronson this afternoon. 
He and his puppy rode out the storm in his house in Long Beach. 
Got an oak tree in his living room.
Theresa (Anoskey)

~G: Phone numbers and email addresses replaced with x's to protect the innocent.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Roll call #17

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:24 PM
From FedWeek:
 
8. Large Number of Employees Affected by Katrina
The Congressional Research Service has estimated that
in the three states most affected by Hurricane Katrina,
there are 55,253 federal (including Postal Service)
workers: 3,028 employees are in Alabama; 31,896 employees
are in Louisiana; and 20,329 employees are in Mississippi.
These workers are employed by some 47 federal agencies. In
the affected areas of the three states, the largest number
of federal employees work for the Postal Service, the
Department of the Army, and the Department of Homeland
Security in Alabama and the Postal Service, the Department
of Veterans Affairs, and the Department of the Army in
Louisiana and Mississippi.
 
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Clint Kemp
High and dry in Lumberton,  I lost a couple of trees and a bird house and that's all.
 
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 In a message dated 2005-10-10 22:13:45 Eastern Daylight Time, stanw writes:
This company has an unsatisfactory rating with the BBB due to unanswered
complaints and their questionable solicitations.
[http://www.aarpelderwatch.org/public/alerts/annuity_scam.html]

Any of our colleagues worried about insurance and rebuilding don't need this
little irritation!

Ramon (Jackson)
    That's for sure.  Please pass my thanks to Ray, a good shipmate.
    Burr
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Stan,
 
I really do appreciate your efforts in keeping everyone informed during the after-mat of Katrina.  Sorry to hear that so many lost property BUT delighted to hear that all employees survived save one. Being a MS native, I have several relatives living on the Gulf Coast and NO.  All left their homes  prior to the hurricane.
 
Also glad to hear the whereabouts of so many "old" NAVOCEANO employees.  Many of them I did not know if they were even living at the time of Katrina.  Made contact with Van Norden  who had heard that I had passed.
 
Our Albuquerque church, Hoffmantown (Baptist) sent a couple of people to MS Gulf Coast, and we adopted First Baptist of Long Beach.  Our church will minister to the Long Beach Church through financial support and short term mission trips.  The first two trips are Oct. 29-Nov. 6 and Nov. 19-27.  My wife will be on both trips, and I hope to be on later trips. A planned triup to SE Asia prevented me from going on the first two.  Coincidentally, I attended first Baptist when living in Long Beach 1978-82.
 
My best to all NAVOCEANO employees--especially those who are going through very tiring times, which I guess includes almost everyone.
                                                                         Jimmy Stribling
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Hi, Stan.  I'm  finally on a computer again and your Roll Call info has been wonderful.  Just wanted to let you know that Joe and I have moved from Diamondhead -- decided that the worry of any future hurricanes would be too much to handle at our age.  We are staying with friends in Mobile, AL and looking for housing inland around Birmingham, AL or Huntsville, AL or the Tennessee area.  Our e-mail address is still good so we'll be able to keep in touch.  Thanks for doing such a great job and I surely hope all things will work out well for you and all of us who have been victims of Katrina -- she really did a number on us.  We had minimal damage -- roof/water from the storm, trees down everywhere.  Decided to put our house up for sale and within 3 days had a buyer who said:  "I'll meet your price; what do you want for the furniture; and when can you be out?"  They lived in Bay St. Louis and lost everything (Benvenutti is their name).  Anyway, we were out of Diamondhead 10 days later -- what a whirlwind it has been.  I know the Gulf Coast will recover from this, but I'm not sure at our age that we can wait around for it to happen.  Take care and God Bless all of us.
 
Joe and Marilyn Shanabrough 
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Stan-
 
I've been reading your roll calls over the past several weeks. The horror and devastation you
people are enduring boggles the mind!
If any of you members of the old split Bathymetry Division want to get away for awhile,
or assess this area for possible relocation, the welcome mat is out!
I live alone & have 2 spare bedrooms- 1 double, 1single.
It's life in the slow lane here in Lancaster Co., VA- ideal for retirees.
Chief diversions are boating, golfing,and in my case, duplicate bridge 2-3 times/week.
 
Terry
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~G: Phone numbers and email addresses replaced with x's to protect the innocent.

Monday, October 10, 2005

Roll call #16

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:15 PM
 
 
Some interesting stuff in todays edition.
Stan
 
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Stan, Al Jarvi is a former Navo employee.  See his note below.
Harry (Myers)
 
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